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Understanding Ichinen Sanzen (part 3) The Mutual Possession of the Ten Worlds

by: markp

Wed Dec 17, 2008 at 10:13:34 AM MST


These ten spiritual realms all arise from the mind and are like the steps of a ladder, leading from that which is shallow to that which is deep.
The Great Calm-Observation, Volume 5, Part 3, Page 1
markp :: Understanding Ichinen Sanzen (part 3) The Mutual Possession of the Ten Worlds
Along with the Ten Factors there is also the Mutual Possession of the Ten Worlds. These are states of mind that fluctuate in response to phenomena. They are, from lowest to highest, Hell, Hunger, Animality, Anger, Tranquility, Rapture, Learning, Realization, Boddhisattva, and Buddhahood. These states of mind each possess each other [Mutual Possession] so that a person can exhibit a subordinate state within a base state. In other words, the Buddha's base state is Buddhahood and the subordinate state could be tranquility or even hell. The Buddha does experience the lower worlds, but in a different way than unenlightened people. An example would be that the Buddha is angry that people live in a fundamental state of  unenlightenment, or he can experience the state of hell that people live in through empathy.

Hunger is not just hunger for food, but also hunger for fame, power, fortune, drugs, sex; you name it and people hunger for it. Hunger is one of the category "Lower Three Worlds." Anger follows in the category of the "Lower Four Worlds." These lower worlds are the states of mind that generally produce the most bad causes which lead to bad effect, however, the Buddha also experiences these lower four worlds but from the standpoint of a purified mind. It is not the Buddha's intent that people eliminate desire, but purify that desire.

Rapture is what people generally believe to be happiness, but this is not so. Rapture is merely a feeling of joy that is temporary in nature. True happiness is more readily experienced as tranquility which is the base state. The states of learning and realization are academic in nature and can be best described by our scientific and academic communities, while the state of Boddhisattva is best described as a state where the individual delays their own enlightenment in an attempt to teach others and put them on the path of Buddhism.

The Mutual Possession of the Ten Worlds can be observed in all forms of life, albeit some forms are harder to observe than others. People tend to complicate their lives to the point that it becomes difficult, but not impossible. Animals such as dogs and apes are easily observable in that they don't complicate their lives.

The concept of the Ten Worlds and their Mutual Possession is extremely profound in that it advances the notion of the inherent Buddha nature that we all possess and is the basis for original enlightenment theory (Hongaku Shiso). T'ien-t'ai states the following: "If the appearance of Bodhi and the Buddha nature are different, could one be permanent and one be impermanent? ... Like the soothsayer who saw that both the appearance and the nature of the king were most exalted, how could the appearance of Bodhi and the Buddha nature not be identical?"

It is notable that those that oppose Hongaku Shiso are really not opposing original enlightenment theory, but statements made in the Lotus Sutra that emphasize that once a person forms a relationship with the sutra they will attain enlightenment in the future. Of course we are not all Buddha's, but the potential does exist according to the sutra.

This concept is also indicative of the One Moment that encapsulates the past, present, and future, which is known as the "Three Existences." The One Moment can be seen as the potentiality of life in any given circumstance, in that we have the volition to go beyond our conditioning and choose to act in an ethical manner instead of being drawn into the lower worlds. This potentiality is also expressed in Quantum Physics.

Next up: Conditioned Response

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Ichinen sanzen
Hi, Mark,

Well, I do have some thoughts on the subject of ichinen sanzen and I would love it if others would share their ideas.  I have been pondering about this conceptualization in a functional way for a very long time.  In the meantime, I am reading what you have had to say and wouldn't want to interrupt with comments in the middle.  You have done a very studied job, even so far, Mark, and I really appreciate your efforts to take up such a complicated (one might say "ultimately complicated") subject.  

I also have some questions about some of the possilble limitations of the basic concepts of ichinen sanzen, but that may be too out there to discuss.  I am not very clear who our audience is necessarily and if they know the essential theory of the "3,000 worlds in a momentary existence", so I am not sure about adding my 2 cents about how that theory might translate (in my experience) to how one may understand and function in life.  I am, however, glad you have brought up the subject for those of us who may not have heard about it, or heard it in such detail before, and am looking forward to more installments.

Thank you for your considerable efforts on this so complicated topic, Mark,

Armchair


re:
I think it's probably best to wait till the next two segments are posted because the next two start to put it all together. The first three segments were preliminary in that you have to go through the actual doctrine. I look forward to your questions though. :)

Markp

Pseudo-science
I wish people would stop making bogus connections between Buddhism and science. I does credit to neither discipline.

re:science
Truth is truth and as such is in complete harmony with Buddhism. What are the sciences except the search for truth, and for a religion to be valid it must accept these truths.

Science proves Buddhism every day, however, Buddhism cannot be proven by science.

Markp


re:science again
The only science that I have suggested in this paper is quantum physics, and only in I believe two instances. The first is quantum physics admittance of the simultaeniety of cause and effect, which is pretty old in Buddhism. At least 1400 years. And, I also state the principle of the potential of the moment in quantum physics, which seems to coincide quite nicely with the One Moment in Three Thousand Existential Spaces (Ichinen Sanzen).

If you take the Buddha as an example, free of karma, then the potential of his moment of existence is pretty wide open to whatever he makes of it, while we, with our boatloads of karma, are bound to conditions.

Markp


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A light aside
I would certainly agree that there is nothing essentially unworthy about attending to the synchronicity between Buddism and science.  A religious faith that is in harmony with scientific realities certainly enhances both sides and should not be deigned pseudo.  I note, with levity, that in a rather quirky film entitled "What the Bleep -- Down the Rabbit Hole." (an extended version of What the Bleep), there is a lot of discussion (whether you want to believe it credible or not) about quantum physics, specifically "co-location," the existence of a single particle in many locations.  

At one point, photographic evidence is offered of a single sub-atomic point existing in many different locations -- the proof of co-location being offered is that when you affect the location of that single point, all the other locations are effected exactly the same.

The researcher describing the experiment says it has been replicated a number of times with a varying number of co-located points.  The largest number of points they have come up with thusfar.  You guessed it -- 3,000.  Hmmmmmm....
Coincidence?  I think not.  lol

I love this site, but it needs to have a bit more humor.  None of us should take ourselves too seriously....


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Humor -- Bushie shoes
Hmmmm.  Control in a single moment.  A friend sent me a link to a website yesterday where you can throw shoes at Bush.  I threw about 5, connecting 3 times before I could control myself.  I think I realized it wasn't going to change his behavior.

Regards,
Armchair


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